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« on: December 13, 2006, 11:48:10 AM »
Couple things were posted that actually disturb me, mainly the guild as a whole can pretty much agree that to ZG we need better geared people to make the transition easier.  People are sick of re-doing the same instances over and over so log on less, or pass on instances.  Newer 60's are unable to field groups now to run instances because of the lack of instances because they want better raiding situaions. ZG we need better geared people to make the transition easier


Owww my head, what can we do as a whole to help alleviate this??
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2006, 12:00:04 PM »
I'm more than willing to listen to any suggestions people may have. I'm still enjoying Strat/Scholo/BRS so have no issues with going along to fill a slot where needed
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2006, 12:03:04 PM »
There were 2 runs on Saturday, the Monday and Tuesday runs were fully subscribed before people had to drop out due to one issue or another, Dire Maul has plenty for tonight, I fail to see the problem to be honest.
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2006, 12:10:11 PM »
Looking back a few weeks we had 2 runs a night most nights, now we have more members in the guild but have struggled to pull enough together for 1 run the past 2 nights - I can see Aimlin's point. That said it's not a world-ending situation, so I'm hopeful things will be back on track sooner rather than later.
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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2006, 12:36:05 PM »
We can do ZG, no problem - or at least the first couple of bosses. That part doesn't require any mofo-booya gear. It's a learning experience.

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But .. I can see why people are becoming bored with the game in general. As with many things (except sex of course), rinse and repeat becomes tiresome and trivial (regardless of how dangerous the instance is) and people start losing interest when questing has already made them into "kill x of y"-zombies.

Right now WoW has this to offer for level 60s: Socializing, BGs, Questing, Instance runs for phat loot (meh), crafting and well .. that's pretty much it.

You've been questing since level 1, BG'ing since level 10 (if you happened to like that sort of thing) and get into the instances around level 14. Once you hit 60, you pretty much run out of "normal" quests and everything has (Dungeon) or (Raid) suffixed. That's fun for a while, but bit by bit, the drudgery starts to sink in. Relying on other players to finish the quests, going back to the same instance time and time again to complete the nth chain quest will eventually wear most people out.

TBC will be a breath of fresh air for the players who are fed up with starting their 10th character just to have something to do, but it won't make the game any better than it already is. New areas to explore, new races and new professions. Hooray, but when you're already fed up with instancing and questing, TBC won't have much to offer.

I'm guessing the game has reached "critical mass" and old players will start to disappear. New players keep coming in and TBC will increase the new subscriptions a little bit for a while, but unless Blizzard introduces some radical new concepts in the game, I believe many old players will move on to other, newer MMOs and never return.

WoW is a great game, but the staying power of WoW starts to lose its charms after a year or two of even casual playing.

How do you keep WoW fun then? It's entirely up to the people in SoG - Blizzard won't do anything - at least not anytime soon.

In the guild we can't do much but tickle the socializing part, but it can be fun. We could arrange some competitions:

- Noob Mad Dash (Level 1's run from their spawn point to a location somewhere in Azeroth)

- Powerleveling 101 (Get from level 1 - 15 first)

- Low level raiding (Form a raid group of level 5s for example and kill an elite)

I know a bunch of guilds arrange events like that to strengthen the community, get people together for a few laughs and what-not.

This turned into a mad rant, but I hope you all stayed with me this far.

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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2006, 12:36:24 PM »
To be honest, my thinking is not really the majority that log on to the forums so to post it here is a waste of time lol.  But there has been many a run that has been posted that has been cancelled due to lack of a class, this may be fixed when a few more hit 60 but in the mean time, ST..ZF need to be run as well, thos that post here I can not fault in the least bit, I have recieved help from many people in the Past by 60's.

What I was saying is people need to get geared up to hit ZG, but can't get geared up without others help in running the instances. So where is the solution, either some of the 60's may have to start hitting the re-run central instances or we will have a heck of a time in the TBC instances and ZG... or there will be a cliche between haves and havenots.. may end up with the attitude of can't take Uf <name outta hat> because she isn't geared enuff for X instance... before we get to that point perhaps its time for each person to think of what we need/want out of the guild and focus on that  just my 2 cents
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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2006, 12:45:42 PM »
Christmas is also nearly upon us so I suspect that may have an effect on things.

As far as gearing up for ZG goes I'll be there whenever we go and I'll be suitably geared, will carry on doing instances to make sure everyone else is as well.
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2006, 06:02:55 PM »
Lioness I know this won't have been a choice you've made lightly and you will be missed.  All I can say is good look, have a great xmas with your family and I can't wait to see you back after TBC if that happens.  If not I hope to see you on here plenty:)

I understand about the lower instances but as I have said a number of times, there is no way we can help the people wanting to run them if their not prepared to use the forum.

As for ZG, I am completly under geared for the place, I have a job that takes up a lot of my (spare Time) so instances have gone down the pan for me until weekends at the moment.  

I would expect however to never be in a situation where I'm told I can't go on a raid/instance because my gear isn't good enough.  This being the case I would suggest people do take advantage of the runs scheduled as much as possible and we keep grinding out those first 2 bosses in ZG, gradually we will all become geared up enough to take the thrid and fourth etc.
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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2006, 06:34:59 PM »
lol, I always though of raid of 40 level 5's-12's to DM would be cool

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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2006, 09:22:59 PM »
Would be funny to see how many made it if noone was ressed, however that'll never happen since the limit is 5man:)

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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2006, 07:37:35 AM »
Explain how in my old guild we had around a 20man raid to DM, it was done in seconds
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2006, 09:57:38 AM »
Sorry correction, the limit is 10 man.  But you certainly could not have had 20

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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2006, 02:45:01 PM »
10 man, thats insane, can you imagine a group of 10 any higher than level 20 going in there, there would be no point, as it is I can walk through with retri aura on and not have to hit a thing