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« on: January 12, 2007, 01:00:29 PM »
After last nites no-run because of no healer (again)  its apparant that we seriously lack Priests.

There are 19 in the guild; one of which is a bank; four others are not registered (future uncertain?) and with Zzarde and his new family, hes just not gonna be as much! That leaves only 3 priests @ level 60!!! and we had one defect last week - that really doesnt help

When TBC is released we are gonna need priests even more than ever over a greater area - so they are going to be in big demand - here are my ideas

1) supernova existing players to 60 ie Migite Felpro etc...

2) when TBC is released, there a lot of talk that members are gonna create new character in new race, why not chose to make them priest (nt sure if thats an option - i expect Daf knows!)

3) major recrutment drive for 55+ level priests

Pondering on such a dissapointing nite; I have created a priest character, a lowley level 6 at moment but I am having fun with her; I will not turn away any help to boost leveling, but I intend for that character to be available for instances such as last nite. If others wish to join me running around as a group of ninja dwarf priests causing havoc in ironforge then please let me know - it could be a real scream - - my character is REALLY ugly!!!

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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2007, 01:24:41 PM »
Priests are ALWAYS in short supply, it's one of those things I'm afraid. I may toy with a Dranei priest but I think a lot of people have similar plans - hopefully anyone starting an alt when TBC is launched will be able to team up with other characters of similar level for some power levelling fun.
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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2007, 01:49:04 PM »
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1) supernova existing players to 60 ie Migite Felpro etc...
That's worth it if they're up for it.
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2) when TBC is released, there a lot of talk that members are gonna create new character in new race, why not chose to make them priest (nt sure if thats an option - i expect Daf knows!)
Priests, shamans, and palladins are all possible healing capable classes for Draenei.
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3) major recrutment drive for 55+ level priests
Difficult at the best of times and there's a major shortage of healing specced characters at the moment as everyone is back on the levelling grind from Wednesday.  A lot of resto druids are now feral or balance, a lot of holy/disc priests are now pretty heavily into the shadow tree, lots of paladins are playing with their shiny crusader strike, all because levelling to 70 as any sort of resto spec will take twice as long as any other spec (I suppose you could instance your way to 70 but you'd miss a lot of content).

 If I hadn't had such problems (10k+ latency) last night I'd have volunteered to heal LBRS myself, I may be feral spec but my healing buttons still work and my healing kit is some of the best in the guild.  I think we're going to get used to more off spec roles and the game will be more challenging and fun because of it*.



* Occasionally healing instances my own level is a challenge, healing lower level instances is insanely dull.
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2007, 02:13:10 PM »
From Wednesday on I'll be doing the grind to 70th with Fap, but I don't intend to respec away from Disp/Holy to do it (I made it from 45-60 being mostly Holy with a little Shadow, and I'll add back the Shadow Talents I miss as I level to 70), so I'll still be usefull in the new instances.    

If I do start falling significantly behind everyone else in the XP-per-hour I'm sure something can be worked out to help me keep pace. If the claim that you should take the same amount of time to get 60-70 that it took you to get 1-60 (about 336 hours for me), that should be 1 level every week (approx).   We'll see what the real figure is soon though  
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2007, 03:14:28 PM »
apologies, I have not been around recently, due to other RL commitments.
I should be back again in a weeks time, when I will be available for healing fun
« Last Edit: January 12, 2007, 03:14:48 PM by Uf-the-NightElf »

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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2007, 03:15:54 PM »
From what i know, there are 2 options to level a priest/healer class:

1. you do it on your own and go into dmg talents (shadow for priests, feral druids etc..)

2. you do a lot of instances as holy

In TBC we will need to do the 5-man instances a lot to complete mandatory quests/rep/items to progress in outlands, therefore if any priest could be persuaded into going holy again, i wouldn't mind at all.

However if healers want to go dmg, i'm afraid you picked the wrong class... tho they are a great asset in damage output, there are better classes out there that are made for that job (rogues, mages,locks..)

Except for the druid/pally/shammy, which was meant to be a versatile class that should be able to adapt to the situation (healing/dmg/tanking)

just my 2 cents.
Bottom line offcourse is that it's mandatory to spec the way you really like to play. If you're not want to heal and *have* to do it, you won't heal as good as someone who loves this aspect of the game

I saw the power of resto druids already and i can tell you.. they don't have to feel less vs any other healing type, if not superior to some of them

However without good healing, you won't get very far in the lvl 70 rush, unless you don't mind mindless grinding of the same mobs for some months...

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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2007, 03:45:12 PM »
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However if healers want to go dmg, i'm afraid you picked the wrong class... tho they are a great asset in damage output, there are better classes out there that are made for that job (rogues, mages,locks..)
Raids are looking a little different though, a shadow priest in with the healing group now provides a stupid amount of mana to the others.  What was previously off spec is now perfectly viable and arguably preferrable to min-maxing the holy trio.  Doesn't really help in a 5 man though, maybe if I was healing as a feral druid I'd be very happy to have a shadow priest as one of my DPS simply because I need the mana.
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I saw the power of resto druids already and i can tell you.. they don't have to feel less vs any other healing type, if not superior to some of them  
Was playing alongside a resto druid in AV yesterday, the sheer amount of healing power was pretty damn impressive.  It still sucks for solo play though and that's what I do a lot of the time so it's very definitely not for me.

Don't get me wrong, I love playing with you all but sometimes I'm not feeling very sociable and I want to do my thing on my own at my own pace.
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2007, 03:57:31 PM »
Please dont take it the wrongway Fap and Uf; you guys are really needed and really good at what you do, when TBC comes out you are gonna be so in demand and split across different groups/runs/quests you will be worn out by the end of the first month  

therefore more priests will ease pressure and you would have no need to feel bad about not being on line - and you SHOULD never feel bad about that - unless of course you had booked you self on the instance roster!!

There are just not enough priests to go around is the way I see it - always  in demand  


so watch out for my priest shes a beaut!!  by the way any advice as to how i should use the talent points would be greatly appreciated    



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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2007, 03:59:10 PM »
I'm not sure all this "you'll need to be Shadow spec to level fast as a Priest" is true. A quick look at the roster at the time to get to 60 for a sample of chars shows I was one of the fastests to get to 60th (14 days), and I was mostly Holy with a little Shadow the whole time. The only two I saw who got there faster where Lanto (12 days) and Zzarde (12 days - I think we was Shadow spec). There are probably others who where faster, but I didn't look at very lvl 60 on the roster.  

So I will keep my Disp/Holy spec into the Outlands, and we'll see what happens  
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2007, 04:13:07 PM »
I won't argue that you can't level fast as holy/disc (or resto for a druid), I'd argue that it's harder to do solo (which is how I spend most of my playtime).

For reference, my time played to 60 was a little under 18 days.  In my defence, I was a total noob and didn't make use of rested XP (I just logged out wherever I was) until I was in my 50s

I should also point out that my earlier comments about a lot of healers respeccing were with regards to the server population as a whole and not our own wonderful mole whackers.
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2007, 05:49:01 PM »
I am currently in talks with a RL friend (lvl 60 human priest) who is fed up with his guild at the mo. They want him to raid 24/7 and get shitty if he has RL commitments.
He can only play once or twice a week at the moment and he feels the guild arn't interested in someone who can't play more than 5 days a week.

 will keep you all posted.
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2007, 07:08:42 PM »
I cannot comprehend playing ANY game that much, not even Monopoly   But I am aware of these guilds, your friend - should he/she choose to join, shall recieve no such pressures here

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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2007, 07:12:34 PM »
Bring him in, even if he doesn't come to us...tell him that his 'friends' obviously put no value in him as a person or his time other than to serve their own addictions. He should leave them high and dry and looking for someone else to abuse. Assholes.

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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2007, 08:45:09 PM »
Uf - you know what we're like. The only commitment I would personally expect (other than Character Profiler, which is neither nowt nor something) is that if they sign up for something they arrive or let us know in plenty of time that they can't make it. Bring 'em along and we can only see what happens
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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2007, 08:47:57 PM »
and to be honest if he feels like leaving but doesn't fancy joining another guild right away I wouldn't have any issues with him joining a run I was on:)

tell him were an easy going guild to an extent:) (addons excluded)

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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2007, 09:39:33 PM »
Yeah, we're nice and easy going about stuff but where addons are concerned we put the Stasi to shame
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